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2004

   

Sifu Gallant, Sifu Dee

Once these two had trained together for a few years daily. You would have thought you were watching a kung fu movie. In fact these two reminded me of the two guys that fought at Sigung Tallbear's club in Vegas, the two that came from Lao's. Neither students had better skill, they both fed off of each other. When one would become great at a certain technique, the other would catch it in time. To watch these two, you would have been totally surprised.

 

 

Sifu Croy in Purple Shirt catching his son, Sifu Charles Croy, with Sifu Gallant, and standing at their side is Sifu Larry Klentz

One day when Sifu Dee came in, Sifu James Croy decided to teach him a technique. Sifu Charles Croy knew what technique it was, everyone else knew what technique it was, except for the unsuspecting Sifu Dee. Everyone knew the technique worked well, but what they did not know is just how powerful it would come out at this time. The technique had to do with some one kicking towards another student, the student being kicked, has to block the kick while stepping backwards one foot, out of line of the kick, yet close enough to block under the kick, and making sure your arm stays under his kick as it moves upwards, when the kicker tries to pull his leg back, it is to late, the person being kicked, if he moves just right, will be able to throw his partner a very good distance. Very good for clearing a crowd, also if one opponent is in front of two of his friends, when he tries to kick you he will go flying into his two buddies with so much force it knocks all three down. Sifu Dee was so surprised at how easy this technique worked. Sifu Charles Croy even though he knew what technique was being done, he could not stop the force of the technique, it made him fly up into the air, so he was surprised also. Lastly, both Sifu James Croy, and Sifu Jamie Gallant, both could not believe how fast Sifu Charles Croy came flying into them. They both agreed it was a good thing to have them behind Sifu Charles Croy to catch him if he went to far, but then again this is the way that Sifu James Croy was taught by Sifu Fiedler, safety always comes first.

 

 

 

    

Ying Yee Eagle

 

 

Evan Starting to learn techniques from his Sash Program

Dragon form

 

Sihing Gary Sutton

Sihing Gary Sutton when he first started, this was the first group of pictures taken of him when he started.

Sihing Gary Sutton

 

 

 

 

 

 

    

Sihing Mathieu

 

 

 

Sihing Chris

 

 

Below are all students that have trained since 2002

 

   

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John has trained for a few years and is doing very well

 

 

        

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Stephanie has always been an excellent student

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    

Sihing Garry Sutton

 

Sihing Mathieu started with Sifu Fiedler back in the 80s when he was a young boy, then he had to stop for years. When he wanted to join again, the Pembroke Kung Fu School was gone, so he joined another martial art. One day while reading the newspaper, he read that Sifu Croy and Sifu Gallant, and Sifu Dee were teaching Sifu Fiedler's martial art systems. Now with family he has come to train at Ky Moo Kwan, under the new head of the System. Ky Moo Kwan is the name of the club, it is not the name of a new style or system of martial arts. What we teach is Hung Kuen for the basics, the reason for this is it works very fast for anyone. Hung Kuen is the type of martial art that is taught to police, security, and soldiers, because of its no nonsense approach. For the advanced technique, at Ky Moo Kwan they teach Tai Liu Chuan Fa, which is a Southern Chinese Eagle and Mantis System. This is a very rare form of Eagle and Mantis, and that is why it is so important to make sure it is passed on to the next generation. Tai Liu Chuan Fa has a linage that goes back all the way to the 14th century, with Suu Family members always being the heads of the system. This until 1979, when the last Chairman of the system Grand Master Suu passed away. He left his system to his top student Grand Master Tallbear of Las Vegas. We also teach a very rare form of Ying Yee, it is known as the "Five Element Fist" also known as " Mind of Movement", or Mind Intent Boxing", all mean the same, to move your body with your mind. Ying Yee is also known for it's ability to copy anything in nature. The Ying Yee Masters of ancient China noticed the power that came from various animals, or thunder, lighting, raging water cutting through rocks, they noticed all types of things from nature and copied each one for a different type of power, or force, or technique. Our form of Ying Yee, is the type where one has to be a master in other martial arts before being able to learn. If a student comes and wants to learn, but has little experience in other martial art systems. The Grand Masters in Ying Yee will teach them techniques from many other martial art styles, not the whole style, but the signature techniques from those styles. If we look at Wing Chun, we know it is famous for it's trapping hand techniques, its sticking hand techniques, it's one inch punch techniques, and it's Wing Block techniques. All of this type of training was very important. For instance if someone tried to trap your hands, if you have experience in this area, you can stop the trap and reverse it on your attacker. Same with Choy Lay Fut., or Northern Long Fist, it teaches very wide open long type technique, it has signature techniques like Wing Chun does, but its own. Like the technique called, Kao, Sao, Chap", as well as Long style backhands, long style round house punches, long style center punch, all of these punches or techniques, while one hand is in front, the other is behind, in a basic sense, if you have one hand behind, and one in front, how can anyone trap you, do you see my point. Everyone of these styles had extraordinary techniques that were very useful to anyone training them. So hundreds of years ago, probably thousands, the Ying Yee masters noticed this and started to take the best techniques from each system and taught these techniques at the start of their students training. Once the students had Long Bridge techniques, Short bridge techniques, How to use Long and Short seamlessly together. Also how to use Soft and Hard technique together, and remember if one wants to know true hard power, one had to first understand soft. On the other side of the coin if someone wanted to understand true soft power one has to first understand hard power. Once a student has passed through these techniques which take two to three years. This is when they can decide to stay with Ying Yee, and start to learn LUK Hup Bah Fah, "Six harmonies, Eight Methods", which is the highest level of our System of Ying Yee.

    Or they are also allowed to start and train Tai Liu Chuan fa. But they cannot train both together. To many times our teachers have seen, students that train systems together, get them mixed up with each other. Another very important aspect of each system of martial arts is that it has its very own feeling, its very own type of way to do things, whether how to hold the body, how to stand, how to move, each system is very unique to each other. With this in mind, if students train two of these unique forms of martial arts at the same time, they become intertwined and become Tai Liu Ying yee. Now we are sure that Tai Liu Ying Yee would be a very good martial art system, what we also know is that it would not be fair to every student under our wing.

    The reason for this is two fold, it is already known that people who practise one, two, or more martial arts styles together, create a system of martial arts that is not what it was when it was taught to them, it becomes a "Mixed Martial Art". If a teacher is taught pure long length, and long length only, he practises that art exactly as it was taught to him, not only that but he teaches that art exactly as it was taught to him. What we have seen in the past twenty years, is one group of students that were training Hung Kuen, and Tai Liu Chuan Fa at the same time, what came out was something that did not look like Hung Kuen, or Tai Liu Chuan Fa. It actually looked strange using the foot work from Hung Kuen, and hand motions from Tai Liu, it used the stop start motion from the Hung Kuen in the Tai Liu Forms, which ruined the movement and the uniqueness of what Tai Liu Chuan Fa was supposed to be. I bet that every Grand Master of Tai Liu Chuan Fa, would roll over in their graves if they seen what some students did to their art. That is another reason why we will always keep each art separate, each art exactly as it was taught to us, because of the extreme respect we have for all Past Grand Masters of every Chinese Martial Arts system from China's amazing past. We are true traditionalists, and we believe in passing on unique forms of martial arts as they were taught to us, we can not stress this enough, because it is one of the most important aspects of China's great historical records. It's six hundred recognized Kung Fu Systems, each one unique to the other, each one, with it's own signature technique.

I would imagine this to be one of the best places to explain what the difference between a style and system. The difference between a style and system is a style is one method of doing things. A system is many methods of doing things. In a style, they would teach one type of feeling, one type of breathing, it's very own signature techniques. For instance earlier we mentioned, "Wing Chun", a very good art to give as an example. Wing Chun, is a style of martial art, it has few forms, but each one is like the other. Meaning the same stances, Wing Chun is famous for it's goat stances, it is also famous for its trapping techniques, and its sticking techniques, whether arm or leg, and for its one inch punch. In a system, they would have twenty different styles of motion, each like Wing Chun, meaning three forms for each style of motion, with each one having its own signature techniques and it's own way of holding it's body. Now why a system would be better then a style in many ways is a student could find very easily what they are good at. You see some students are great with long length, some with short, others are great using hard style techniques, others with soft. With a style, you are locked into one method, and it has to fit your body structure now matter what. But with a system, you can find the type of Style that fits your body type, and work most of the time on that type of technique at the start. This way your martial arts would work far better for you, then it would for someone locked into a style that does not fit their body type. Again to understand this far better. Lets take a look at Wing Chun, it uses what is known as, Short Bridge techniques, this style is very good for small people, for women, and for small men, even children. Some styles fit people that are very muscular, some styles fit people that are fat, some skinny, some short and some tall. So I hope you see my point now, if you start in a system of martial arts, your master will be able to fit you into a set group of signature techniques that fit your body type from the beginning of your training and that way what you are learning you will have a better chance of using if needed. However if you are forced into training a martial art that fits a body type that is not even close to your size, it will not work very well when it is needed. I hope I have made this clear, if anyone has more questions about this, the difference between a style and a system, please email us. Thank you

Much more to come,

Sifu Dee

 

 

 

    Another art that we are training now is Tai Chi Chuan, first we teach the Peking Short Yang Style form. This form of Tai Chi was created recently in Peking for the elderly, and for public demonstrations, and for tournaments. So that every participant would do the same motions, same directions, and same amount of time to do the form. They tried to have Tai Chi tournaments without doing this first, and it turned out to be a nightmare, as there were many types of Tai Chi, many forms, and it took far to long for each participant to go through their forms. After this happened a few times, some of the Great Masters decided to make a form that everyone could do, that would cover most of the original motions in Yang Style Tai Chi, and allow everyone to be equal in time and form. This was a wonderful experiment that worked very well. They called the form the Peking Short form. They did this to make Tai Chi come out into the population, that was many years ago, today Tai Chi Chuan is practised more then any other art. Tai Chi Chuan by the way means, "Grand Ultimate fist", does that sound like a health exercise. Tai Chi did come from a Kung Fu Back ground, but it came from the Internal side. Meaning if someone was to learn only the basics of Tai Chi, they would not have been taught any of the real ancient techniques for martial arts, only for health, or better said, Chi Kung Techniques, standing and moving meditations, and one form.

We teach another form of Tai Chi, which is not Yang, Chan, Wu, Sun, but rather a style of Tai Chi that was thought to have been practised by the Taoist Monks of a thousand years ago. As far as age, or where it came, I am not that interested. What we use the Tai Chi for, is for the warm up for advanced students. Once we have gone through the Tai Chi form at the start of our work out, it is amazing what it does to our minds and bodies. Excellent feeling to start a class like this. It is a perfect meditation without sitting, moving meditation works differently then the sitting, but I would say if you do one, you should do the other. Both compliment each other and both give you things you can't find any where else. Again, one more time. most people will give up on the meditation, because they can't wait for the results, it does take a long time. Unlike doing a push up and seeing the results, with in weeks. In fact the next day after starting push ups, your muscles are sore. That is feeling results. With meditation, or at least for Sifu Fiedler, it took him six months before he started to achieve results, and when they came he says it was as if it was magic. But then again, he warns, that he did train four hours a day, six days a week, for the first two years. That was always, and never missed a day. Remember Sifu Fiedler had just moved to Edmonton, did not know anyone, and was basically starting over in life. He wanted to get away from all the influences in his life from when he was young. Plus he always wanted to learn real martial arts.

 

More to come

 

 

 

 

Sincerely Sifu Dee

 

Thanks for coming, hope to see you soon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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